The NOE family from the Meetjesland in East-Flanders, Belgium
Language problems and other questions
Dear Cousin, dear Visitor,
English is not my mother tongue. Most of what I know of the beautiful
language of Shakespeare (or was it Edward de Vere ?) I learned in or near London
I thought I spoke English fluently. Well, when I started on this translation
I found out otherwise: I needed the dictionary for innumerable terms and
expressions. If emendations are in order or if it's not quite English "as
she is spoke" please do not hesitate: your comments will be
much appreciated and looked into gratefully and with great care.
Where I talk about your children, parents or grandparents, if you want me to say more
(or perhaps less), or if you want me to say it differently, please let me know.
If you have more information on one of the persons mentioned on this site, or a link
to your genealogy site, please let me know.
If you have a picture you want us to include, please send us a copy and make
sure we can figure out who or what it is and where it fits in.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you for your cooperation and patience.
Now if you think you have the answer to one or more of the questions below,
or part of the answer or a hint, or a suggestion, please write to me and help
us out. Thank you.
We have several questions concerning Jacobus Noë,
son of Ferdinand (B VI c). For
instance we don't know when or where he died.
After the death of his first wife Jacobus went to Ath to get married to
Celina Maria Boquet. Ath in the
French speaking part of Belgium was a fairly long
way off. After her death he married a third time and his new bride was Emilie
Calcus. According to Marijn's book she was born in Bousignies.
I couldn't find a town in Belgium called Bousignies but just north of Ath there
is a town called Bouvignies. Two questions because of the proximity of the two
towns (and the two last names): could it be that Celina Maria's last name was
Bouquet instead of Boquet and if so, was she related to Emilie Calcus' mother
whose name was Florina Bouquet ? Finally, Jacobus had one daughter
Margareta Emilie who married Philemon Van De Putte. Did they have
What happened to so many of the children of
and Tecla Francisca Rabaut ? They were born in Eeklo between 1797
and 1808. But we have no further news from Carolus Ludovicus, Anna Coleta,
Anthonius Franciscus, Adelaïde, Marie Antoinette and Eugenie Françoise.
And what about Vincentius' younger brother Carolus. We only know that he
was born in Eeklo on 29/6/1779. What on earth became of them all ?
Petrus Noë, son of Joannes (Joannes
was the brother of Petrus Noë B III b)
had 3 sons:
- Jacobus ° Waterland-Oudeman 23/5/1723
- Franciscus ° Waterland-Oudeman 12/1/1728
- Petrus ° Waterland-Oudeman 26/7/1733.
We have no idea what became of them. Anyone knows ?
If one of the parents of under age children died, then a list of their goods
("Staat van Goed" in Dutch) was made and everything was sold. I
call that list of property in this website "estate reckonings" and I wish to
express here my gratitude to Mr. William Goodfellow
who in a message to me suggested this translation. Did something similar happen
in other countries as well ? Is there an officially recognized English term
for this list ?
In the Catholic Church we have Masses with singing and without. In Dutch we say
"Gezongen" mass, "gezongen" from the verb "zingen" is to
sing. And we have the "gelezen" mass (without singing).
"Gelezen" past participle of "lezen" is to read but also to pray.
What would be the correct terms in English ? A Holy Mass with singing was of
course more expensive.
(See Martinus fs Adrianus.)
What happened to Joannes, the
fifth son of Adrianus Noë (B III a) and Ludovica Roets and ... what happened
the second son of Franciscus Anthonius Noë (B V a) ?
What happened to Henricus, the eldest
son of Petrus Noë (B VII a) and Rosalie Pauwels ? In 1990, thanks to
Jozef Noë of La Porte, Indiana and Leo De
Keersemaecker, president of "Flemings in the World" a Wanted poster appeared
in two Dutch language papers in the USA and in "De Windmolen" (wind mill), a
Canadian paper. Those appeals for information on Henricus were not successful.
Marie-Louise Noë, one of the
daughters of Petrus Noë (B VII a) and Rosalie Pauwels was married twice.
Did she have children ? If yes, who, when, where ? And what became of
And what became of Florence,
eldest daughter of Francies Noë (B VII b) ? Did she have children ?
When and where did she and her husband die ?
What became of Emma Maria,
the sister of Florence, the second daughter of Francies Noë (B VII b) ?
She left for New York with her nephew Edmond De Baets. Did she rejoin
Leonard de Baets, the father of Edmond and the widower of her younger
sister ? What became of them ?
And what happened to Petrus, son of
Francies Noë (B VII b) ? We know nothing other than his date of
Joannes, one of the sons of Petrus Noë (B III b)
married Maria Anna Burgghrave and they had a son
Pieter who was born on 17/1/1748 at
Watervliet. We don't know anything else
about this Pieter.
What happened to
Joanna Catharina Noë, daughter of
Petrus Noë (A III) ? We only know her date and place of birth.
What became of Jacobus, Joannes Philippus and Petrus Noë. For these 3 sons
of Judocus Noë (B II a) we have nothing more than
their date of birth. And what about their sister, Livina Joanna ? She married
Judocus Roets. Did they have children ?
Anyone have more information on
Clothilde, one of the daughters of Ivo
Francies Noë (C VII a) ? We have only her date of birth. And what
about her eldest sister,
Marie-Josephina ? She was
married to August Martens and they had 9 children. Six of them became adults.
Who ? What ? When ? Where ?